torsdag 14. september 2023

Fatigue - signs and management

This is a copy of a Reddit post I made in the SBS subreddit.

I've been pondering fatigue alot lately, and thought I'd try to put a few of my thoughts down on paper and hear what you all experience in this regard.

42, male, 189cm, 113kg - recreational lifter and dabbling strength philosopher.

After too many years of focusing on maximal strength (spinning my wheels at a 155 press, 245 bench, 405 squat and 415 deadlift), I'm now running SBS Hypertrophy for a 16 week block, in a caloric surplus (about 400 above maintenance). My goal is to build a wider base and program more intelligently trying to get stronger in the long run.

I've found over the years that fatigue almost always sneaks up on me. No matter how many programs and cycles I run through, I always get surprised and blindsided by fatigue. I've recently started wondering if this is my special little thing, or if it's a common occurence among lifters in general.

Usually these are some telltale signs that fatigue is catching up to me:

  • Sleep deteriorates (I've never been a great sleeper, but when I'm real ground down it goes to total shit, and I get out of bed just as tired as I was getting in)

  • I feel something along the lines of depression - my mood is down, and negativity often prevails in situations I'd usually just shrug off

  • Building on the last one: I'm much more sensitive - oftentimes I can feel the need to cry, even though I never do

  • Getting my 10-12k daily steps start turning into a chore, not a delight at being outside with my dog

  • The only time I really feel good is in the gym - at all other times I'm deflated and tired (up to a point - if I pass even that point, the gym starts feeling bad too)

  • I think about being in bed alot - not necessarily sleeping, but just alone and under the covers (kickback to the point about feeling something akin to depression)

  • Body image can turn negative too - if I'm well rested and loving training, I will have a very positive body image and feel good about myself - but when fatigue is grinding me down, I will look in the mirror and see something else entirely

  • I become more of a hypochondriac - every little thing is cancerous, a tumor, the end of me

  • I'm volatile - I can feel on top of the world one minute, strong and fast and ready to go, and crushed with zero energy the next

Managing fatigue, for me, is quite the challenge. Only recently I've started viewing it as the grand total of my "life fatigue", not just strength training fatigue or gym fatigue. I've started trying to get a feel for how my work, home and training stress all work together and make up the total fatigue I'm feeling. I've not really figured out how to manage it well, but atleast I'm on the road to enlightenment (maybe, hopefully).

I've started to look at RPE and in the future I will starting training more "intuitively" using RPE and programs supporting it. I am also working towards a goal of getting better at playing the long game, and not letting Today decide how an entire cycle plays out. Hence the realization that I needed a broader base instead of banging my head against the same weights over and over.

I'd be interested in hearing what signs you pay attention to when gouging your own fatigue, and what measures you take to manage it. I guess this is just sort of a philosophical thread where I'm looking for the experience and thoughts of others, in a hope of finding tidbits and nuggets I can take along on my own journey.

onsdag 16. august 2023

BW: 110.5kg.

Day 10 of PSMF. Tired today, but not too hungry.

Famine by Jamie Lewis, second run, day 5.

Barbell row: 75kg - 4xAMRAP - 7 7 7 7. Heavy, but moving well.

Machine row: 6x20 - 3x45kg 3x40kg. Jesus, this hurt. 

Supersetted with:

Machine curl: 6x10 - 3x55kg 3x50kg. Oww.

Chins: 4x6

Supersetted with:

HLR: 4x8

Good workout, but I was just straight up empty at the end of it. 

mandag 14. august 2023

BW: 110.6kg.

Day 8 of PSMF. Hungry but cruising.

Famine by Jamie Lewis, second run, day 4.

Squat: 5x3 127.5kg. These were surprisingly easy and smooth.

Squat: AMRAP at 50% - 62.5kg - 24 reps. Shoulders giving out long before legs are broken.

Military press: 5xAMRAP 90% - 60kg 4 4 4 3 3 - worse performance than last week for sure. But also 7.2kg lighter than last week, so... okay?

Incline DB press: 5x5 - 24kg - super slow, smooth and controlled, with a pause at the bottom. Could probably have gone up this week.

Leg curl 5x20, Calf raise 5x8 and HLR 5x10 done circuit style. Hard.

søndag 13. august 2023

BW: 111.2kg.

Day 7 of PSMF. 6.4kg down this week. Expecting a slowdown now, to perhaps 2-400 grams per day. Feeling  better than I have all week. Spells of fatigue and some dizziness, but otherwise I'm doing fine. Strength is fine when I hoist something.

Walked a ton with the dog yesterday. Ended the day at about 18000 steps, and that was with alot of loafing on the couch rewatching House of Cards too.

Will walk plenty today too, perhaps break out the weight vest later today.

fredag 11. august 2023

BW: 112.5kg.

Day 5 of PSMF. Rough times.

Famine by Jamie Lewis, second run, day 3.

Squat: 6x4 120kg. These were fine. Could perhaps have gone 125, but erred on the side of caution, because I felt like a freight train had mowed me down all day before working out.

Bench: 4xAMRAP 85kg. Got 6 6 5 5, and it felt fairly fine.

Dips: 20 minutes.

Cable row: 6x20 47kg. This is the destroyer of worlds.

Chins: 20 minutes.

Shoulder press (machine): 6x8 45kg.


I have been feeling like shit all week. I've fasted before, and did NOT expect this freight train that has rammed me this week. Maybe it's because I've been getting 4000 calories on the regular, working out and feeling fantastic. The contrast to my current 800-900 calorie PSMF is stark, to say the least. If I keep feeling like this I am not convinced I want to go the entire month. I will give it one more week, and hopefully the body adjusts.

I feel so much better after this lifting session than before, it's absurd.



onsdag 9. august 2023

BW: 113.3kg.

Day 4 of PSMF. Feeling better than yesterday (I think).

It's time to dig deep for the stories and fantasies about why I'm currently starving. 

I loved MythicalStrength's (http://mythicalstrength.blogspot.com/) ideas of making stories in your head when you train. I used to do this alot when I was out in the woods running. To keep going I would imagine I was living in the 40s, during the war, and I had to either outrun some german soldiers chasing me, or get quickly from wherever I started to wherever I was going, through the woods, to save my daughters from the soliders. Or some such variation of the same "hero" themes. It was remarkably effective. It made me feel like there was true purpose to the run, outside of just increasing my physical fitness. It also took me out of my head and the constant "this feels heavy, let's just stop it"-thoughts. Instead I could talk to myself and keep pushing because they would die if I didn't.


I'm one of these guys, from time to time.


And now I use this same type of thinking when I'm having a hard time during weight training or conditioning. Any type of fantasy works, that's whats so great about it. I can be a viking invader, a special forces soldier on a mission, a lonely hermit in the woods just breaking new ground and working my ass off to sustain myself - literally anything works, as long as you like thinking about it and it keeps you going.

Or one of these guys. Norwegian resistance boys during the war.

Mentality is the key. It's the main driver of all progress. You protect your mind and your well being inside yourself before anything else. It's the foundation that everything else is built on.

 BW: 114.3kg.

Day 3 of PSMF. Lowest energy day yet. 

Famine by Jamie Lewis, second run, day 2.

Rows: 4x70kg amraps - 7 7 7 7 - maybe went too light, would have got 4-5 at 75-80kg.

Machine Row 6x20: 3x45kg 3x40kg

Machine Bicep Curls 6x8: 3x50kg 3x45kg

Chins 4x6

HLR 4x8


Devoid of energy due to keto kicking in. Diarrhea, feeling sick, the whole usual keto flu routine. Hopefully it eases up in a few days.

Fatigue - signs and management

This is a copy of a Reddit post I made in the SBS subreddit. I've been pondering fatigue alot lately, and thought I'd try to put a f...